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- Branche: Computer-Software
- Unternehmensgröße: 51–200 Mitarbeiter
- Täglich für Mehr als 1 Jahr genutzt
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- Weiterempfehlungsquote 7.0 /10
SaaS Billing Tool für Massengeschäft
Bewertet am 30.8.2023
Top Lösung für Massengeschäft ala Netflix oder Spotify, daher für teilweise individuelles B2B...
Top Lösung für Massengeschäft ala Netflix oder Spotify, daher für teilweise individuelles B2B Geschäft nicht optimal. Großer Funktionsumfang der aber auch seinen Preis hat. Mit dem Support sind wir nicht immer zufrieden.
Vorteile
Die Automatisierung und Integration in Zahlungsabwickler wie Stripe funktioniert gut. Top Auswertemöglichkeit für die gängigen SaaS KPIs.
Nachteile
Für unser B2B Geschäft ist die Individualisierung der Abos nicht ausreichend. Außerdem sind die Prognosefunktionen für Umsatz etc.nicht gut.
- Branche: Computer-Software
- Unternehmensgröße: 11–50 Mitarbeiter
- Täglich für Mehr als 2 Jahre genutzt
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- Weiterempfehlungsquote 10.0 /10
Basically, perfect in all aspects
Bewertet am 24.1.2019
We're ourselves are SaaS product, and use Chargebee as a backend for our payments and billing. We...
We're ourselves are SaaS product, and use Chargebee as a backend for our payments and billing. We extensively use addons and various combinations of subscription plans.
I couldn't name another product that I would be that happy with as I am with Chargebee.
Vorteile
- Perfect UX/UI: all the filters, mass operations, detailed settings are available just as I need them, never think a second where to find a function I need
- Great API & integration support
- Very powerful analytics (especially with RevenueStory)
- Awesome support
- A very, very carefully and thoughtfully planned interface with a deep understanding of the user.
Nachteile
I faced literally two issues through the course of 6 years using Chargebee in production.
- Branche: Informationstechnologie & -dienste
- Unternehmensgröße: 11–50 Mitarbeiter
- Täglich für Mehr als 1 Jahr genutzt
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- Weiterempfehlungsquote 7.0 /10
My ChargeBee experience. Not great, not really bad either.
Bewertet am 19.10.2023
All in all, it wasn't a terrible experience, but the issues that we experienced (with some not...
All in all, it wasn't a terrible experience, but the issues that we experienced (with some not completely on ChargeBee, but shared with Microsoft) didn't allow my experience to be great either. But what I can say is that once they iron out those integration issues with Partner Center, I don't foresee having any negative experiences going forward.
Vorteile
The best way I can summarize what I liked about ChargeBee comes down to with the amount of available features, still having a minimalistic aesthetic to it. Not a lot of unnecessary clutter that isn't useful, just all the stuff you need, and none of the stuff you don't.
Nachteile
Everything related to invoicing. Now, I will note that our issues could have just been tied to issues related to limitations with Microsoft Partner Center subscription portal integration and ChargeBee. That being said, we had constant issues with the way invoices detailed how our customers were being charged and what was being credited, leading to long conversations with my customers explaining what they were reading.
- Branche: Bekleidung & Mode
- Unternehmensgröße: 11–50 Mitarbeiter
- Täglich für Mehr als 2 Jahre genutzt
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- Weiterempfehlungsquote 0.0 /10
A deeply regrettable & expensive experience
Bewertet am 16.11.2023
Our experience with Chargebee has been nothing short of a nightmare. The first implementation...
Our experience with Chargebee has been nothing short of a nightmare. The first implementation consultant we were assigned was utterly incompetent, providing no solutions and merely directing us to irrelevant API documentation. They showed no interest in understanding our use case or reviewing our documents and user flows.
During our weekly calls, I was left to fend for myself, presenting configurations that didn’t work and proposing solutions that were met with dismissive responses. It became painfully clear that this consultant, an external contractor, was more interested in passing the buck than in providing any real assistance.
Our pleas for help fell on deaf ears, with emails left unanswered for weeks on end. When we requested a new implementation consultant, we were unaware that this was merely a symptom of a larger problem: Chargebee’s complete disregard for their customers.
Our second consultant was a breath of fresh air, taking the time to understand our use case and helping us find a working solution. However, the migration package we purchased was a complete waste of money, offering little more than a suggestion to read the error messages and make the necessary changes.
Fast forward to today, and we are still grappling with an open ticket from [sensitive content hidden]. The configuration that Chargebee sold us has proven to be a complete disaster. Following an update in August, our instance has been plagued with errors, causing serious issues for our customers.
To add insult to injury, we were informed that the features of the solution we purchased nine months ago do not work together. This was news to us, as none of their documentation suggested this. Despite presenting examples of both successful and failed system operations, Chargebee has failed to provide a replicable explanation of our current configuration’s behavior.
The most alarming part of this ordeal is the frequency with which we have had to chase them for updates, only to be met with silence, followed by a call in which we are blamed for not testing the configuration properly.
Chargebee has refused to provide a written explanation of how the code should behave to this day. They have refused my ask to further go over our examples and truly understand our use case.
If you’re looking for a service that will lie to you, ignore you, and treat you like a fool, then look no further than Chargebee. Their approach to customer service and business conduct is nothing short of appalling.
Vorteile
It is quite intuitive and easy to use.
Nachteile
The team at Chargebee has proven to be nothing short of a disaster. They treat you with utter disregard, blatantly lying to you and leaving your emails unanswered for weeks on end. When you finally manage to get a response, they lure you into a call under the pretense of prioritizing your concerns, only to leave you in the lurch once again. This vicious cycle of neglect continues unabated, while you are left to deal with the fallout of their incompetence, losing customers in the process. Their behavior is not just unprofessional, it’s downright disgraceful.
- Branche: Computer-Software
- Unternehmensgröße: 51–200 Mitarbeiter
- Täglich für Mehr als 2 Jahre genutzt
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- Weiterempfehlungsquote 9.0 /10
Easy Subscription Management
Bewertet am 25.2.2021
It has been useful to set up our automated subscription plans. Creating different plans, promos,...
It has been useful to set up our automated subscription plans. Creating different plans, promos, and payment methods were quite easy.
Vorteile
Chargebee makes it very easy to set up automatic billing, subscription creation, and setting up promos for our customers. The interface is fairly straightforward to navigate and they connect with much of our tech stack, which helps streamline workflows.
Nachteile
Not much to not like. There are a lot of settings, such as reminders and notifications that you need to make sure you set up if you want to stay on top of your billing. Once they are set up, they are very helpful!
- Branche: Telekommunikation
- Unternehmensgröße: 51–200 Mitarbeiter
- Täglich für Mehr als 1 Jahr genutzt
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- Weiterempfehlungsquote 9.0 /10
Great product and even better Customer Support
Bewertet am 4.10.2022
We are efficient in new client onboarding and subscription processes because of Chargebee. We were...
We are efficient in new client onboarding and subscription processes because of Chargebee. We were manually raising invoices before but with Chargebee the process is simplified and very effective.
Vorteile
We have a SMB and Enterprise Sales team and use Chargebee for accounting and subscription purposes to great effect. Invoicing a new client is very easy and UI is super fluid. We have raised a couple of tickets when we encountered bugs but their Customer Success team got in touch with us and solved it within a day.
Nachteile
There were bugs (duplicate invoice created, client email not registering etc) these happen more frequently than we'd like. It's not that much of a problem because they get resolved super quick
- Branche: Informationstechnologie & -dienste
- Unternehmensgröße: 11–50 Mitarbeiter
- Täglich für Mehr als 1 Jahr genutzt
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- Weiterempfehlungsquote 10.0 /10
Best tool for billing and recurring
Bewertet am 23.12.2022
Vorteile
As a business owner, I know how hard it is to manage the bill. Chargebee makes the process seamless and easy. It's great for recurring subscriptions and provides the best customer service experience. Chargebee is the best billing and recurring tool I've ever used. The interface is clean and easy to use, plus it has a lot of features that make it worth the price. I love that they have integrations with so many other platforms, like Slack or Zapier. It's really helped us save time on our billing process in particular.
Nachteile
I don't have any complaints at this time.
- Branche: Computer-Software
- Unternehmensgröße: 11–50 Mitarbeiter
- Täglich für Mehr als 1 Jahr genutzt
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- Weiterempfehlungsquote 8.0 /10
Reliable recurring billing platform
Bewertet am 13.9.2018
Vorteile
Chargebee is a very effective platform for recurring billings. It allows you to create plans, addons, coupons, and invoice reliably time and again.
Nachteile
Complex billing situations, such as sending a customer a single invoice for several subscriptions, are a bit more complex and require a lot of meddling with the system.
Antwort von Chargebee
Hi Peter,
Thank you for your review :)
We do have a feature called Consolidated Invoicing that provides the functionality to consolidate and send out a single invoice for multiple subscriptions of a customer. We will send out a detailed email to you on this feature at the earliest.
- Branche: Computer-Software
- Unternehmensgröße: 11–50 Mitarbeiter
- Täglich für 6-12 Monate genutzt
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- Weiterempfehlungsquote 10.0 /10
Chargebee
Bewertet am 29.7.2020
This is the first software that I have used and I found it very easy to learn. I spent a morning...
This is the first software that I have used and I found it very easy to learn. I spent a morning going thorugh and learning the ropes and was an expert by the afternoon! Their customer service is awesome and provides great help. However, because it is easy to use, I have not had to use their help more than once.
Vorteile
Chargebee is easy to use and quick to learn. You are able to access subscriptions with ease. Creating email templates to be sent out is easy. You can view all of your subscriptions on one page or you can add filters to find one specific subscription, too.
Nachteile
With the email templates, you have to make sure that the client you are sending an email to, has to be in a filter, otherwise, you send it to your entire client base.
- Branche: Bildungsmanagement
- Unternehmensgröße: 51–200 Mitarbeiter
- Täglich für Mehr als 1 Jahr genutzt
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- Weiterempfehlungsquote 8.0 /10
It's a useful application if you have the significant large volume of customers for Invoicing
Bewertet am 14.6.2018
Saving lots of time in Invoicing to the customer.
Saving lots of time in Invoicing to the customer.
Vorteile
The application is Subscription enabled. So if the monthly billing amount is same then the subscription will create Invoices every month automatically without manual involvement.
Nachteile
Sometimes due to system error invoices get created and get paid, which is not in order. I cannot bill single customer from to supplier.
Antwort von Chargebee
Hi there,
Thank you for your review :) We¿re glad that you find our product useful.
Regarding invoicing due to system errors, I would like to understand more on this. Could you please send me your email address so we get in touch with you on this?
- Branche: Informationsdienst
- Unternehmensgröße: 11–50 Mitarbeiter
- Monatlich für Mehr als 2 Jahre genutzt
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- Weiterempfehlungsquote 10.0 /10
Best SaaS subscription billing platform
Bewertet am 13.12.2022
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I have been using Chargebee for over a year now and I am completely in love with it. It's the best SaaS subscription billing platform out there and I would highly recommend it to anyone looking to start a subscription based business. The customer service is also fantastic, they are always available to help and their responses are quick.
Nachteile
Some of configuration is complex to understand. But thier customer support is quick to help us.
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Stripe- Branche: Finanzdienstleistungen
- Unternehmensgröße: 2–10 Mitarbeiter
- Täglich für Mehr als 2 Jahre genutzt
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- Weiterempfehlungsquote 2.0 /10
Just Stay Away
Bewertet am 24.6.2020
I do not recommend them to avoid at all costs sign up for the free trial and process your first...
I do not recommend them to avoid at all costs sign up for the free trial and process your first $50k free then move on to another company.software because once you start making money they will ask for a percentage of the money you collect. WHy do they think they are supposed to get paid a percentage of our moneyy?
Vorteile
The software is compatible with zapier which makes it easy to connect to other apps. or programs.
Nachteile
This company is based in the Philippines so the customer support for US-based customers is almost nonexistent. The online chat support is a complete joke because they just enter in "tickets" and never one ever follows up with you regarding an issue or concern. Once I sat down to track the payments that were being processed and the payments "could not authorize payment" but the system was marking the payments as paid. So customers are confused as too why they got an email says they paid but no payments removed from their account. The revenue story is unreliable and I have had to hire someone just to go inside of Chargebee to make sure the payments actually processed. Can you imaging hiring someone to double-check software?
- Branche: Internet
- Unternehmensgröße: 11–50 Mitarbeiter
- Täglich für Mehr als 2 Jahre genutzt
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- Weiterempfehlungsquote 2.0 /10
Good only if you use the default set-up
Bewertet am 17.3.2021
In the beginning was very nice, but the more I use the product, the less I like it. We are...
In the beginning was very nice, but the more I use the product, the less I like it. We are considering moving to a different provider even if this will require to re-implement all our payment process.
Vorteile
At the beginning, when we started using this software, the setup was quite easy and just following their online documentation we could set up everything in our project.
Nachteile
Things started to go wrong when we try to use a more advanced implementation using their API. Integration with Hubspot was a mess, but we manage to fix that. On the other hand, 3DS implementation is very poorly documented if you don't use their in-house components. The support team is one of the worst I've encountered, they give you contradictory explanations, they don't even properly read the information you provide and it's very difficult to get the level 2 support.
- Branche: Bildungsmanagement
- Unternehmensgröße: 1 001–5 000 Mitarbeiter
- Wöchentlich für Mehr als 2 Jahre genutzt
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- Weiterempfehlungsquote 8.0 /10
Great platform for billing and subscription.
Bewertet am 7.12.2022
Overall, Chargebee is a great billing solution and I would recommend it to anyone!
Overall, Chargebee is a great billing solution and I would recommend it to anyone!
Vorteile
There are many things that I like about Chargebee, but the thing that I like most is the fact that it makes billing easy. No more worrying about whether or not I am being charged the right amount, or if I am being charged at all. Chargebee takes care of all of that for me, and all I have to do is sit back and relax.
Nachteile
I think that Chargebee is a good product but there are definitely some areas that could be improved. Sometimes payment gateway doesn't load and it show error which is bit frustating.
- Branche: Einzelhandel
- Unternehmensgröße: Selbstständig
- Täglich für Mehr als 1 Jahr genutzt
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- Weiterempfehlungsquote 10.0 /10
Easy with many possibilities
Bewertet am 3.6.2022
Simple to set up and easy to use. Nice support for customers.
Simple to set up and easy to use. Nice support for customers.
Vorteile
The implementation into our product and Slack. Statistic overview. It is very easy to set up customer and provide them also with info/status mails too.
Nachteile
To be honest, chargebee gives me more that I expected :D. Billing and subscription service was that what we need. And of course, the different types of mails notifications.
- Branche: Maschinerie
- Unternehmensgröße: 11–50 Mitarbeiter
- Wöchentlich für 6-12 Monate genutzt
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- Weiterempfehlungsquote 7.0 /10
"Very convenient and flexible service"
Bewertet am 2.1.2022
Exchanges and membership the executives is really simple and coordinating the framework with our...
Exchanges and membership the executives is really simple and coordinating the framework with our CRM was extremely speedy and powerful. The presentation of the organization expanded as it is truly simple to explore between our CRM and chargebee frameworks.
Vorteile
UI and straightforwardness. Everything is set consistently and regardless of whether you have a past encounter with Chargebee it's exceptionally simple to become acclimated to it. Effortlessness and a speedy expectation to absorb information make it an extraordinary apparatus for all exchange based cycles.
Nachteile
In some cases we get issues with webhooks and API's on our different member framework that is associated with Chargebee, however I'm certain it is handily fixed. We trust that these reconciliations issues will be settled.
- Branche: Informationstechnologie & -dienste
- Unternehmensgröße: 2–10 Mitarbeiter
- Täglich für Mehr als 1 Jahr genutzt
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- Weiterempfehlungsquote 10.0 /10
Really ease the pain of implementing payment processing
Bewertet am 13.2.2019
Vorteile
Really ease the pain of implementing payment processing. I have tried implementing Braintree without Chargebee and it was a nightmare.
Nachteile
I have nothing to complain. They are improving all the time and doing its job.
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Chargebee is great!
Bewertet am 18.5.2013
Our small local professional org / non-profit was looking for a newsletter / member management...
Our small local professional org / non-profit was looking for a newsletter / member management system that was supported and not going to break the bank. During our investigations of MailChimp, we learned about Chargebee. While a relatively new company, we were given confidence by MailChimp's endorsement. We went live a week ago with our new solutions and cannot be happier.
Vorteile
We've found Krish and his team to be super helpful. They were responsive and informative to our pre-sales questions and have been helpful setting us up with their system. Generally, the product is very easy to use. They are receptive to feedback.
Nachteile
Since Chargebee is a new company, there are a few rough spots, for example, when using their hosted payment pages, any payment errors are generic. Also, for someone not familiar with payments, some of the configuration took some work.
Antwort von Chargebee
Thank you Todd. A pleasure to work with you. Your inputs on your use cases certainly helped us & your review has been a great help to import your existing subscriptions. Looking forward to a long relationship. Thank you.
- Branche: Informationstechnologie & -dienste
- Unternehmensgröße: 11–50 Mitarbeiter
- Täglich für 1-5 Monate genutzt
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- Weiterempfehlungsquote 10.0 /10
Enabling Businesses to Monetize their Subscription Models Effectively
Bewertet am 16.2.2023
Additionally, Chargebee's customer support and documentation are well-regarded, with many users...
Additionally, Chargebee's customer support and documentation are well-regarded, with many users praising the company's responsiveness and helpfulness in resolving any issues or answering questions
Vorteile
Streamline your subscription management with Chargebee's all-in-one platform,Chargebee's powerful billing and revenue automation features make subscription management a breeze,Get paid faster and grow your business with Chargebee's flexible payment options
Nachteile
Chargebee's revenue recognition capabilities give you accurate insights into your business's financial health.
- Branche: Marketing & Werbung
- Unternehmensgröße: 2–10 Mitarbeiter
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Simply Awesome Subscription Billing that JUST WORKS!
Bewertet am 28.10.2015
I''ve been relying on Chargebee to handle all subscription needs for my online wordpress maintenance...
I''ve been relying on Chargebee to handle all subscription needs for my online wordpress maintenance service for the last 3 years. They always went above and beyond my expectations in helping me with anything I asked of them. I have never once encountered a problem due to their service! I love their team. I respect their leadership. I highly recommend you check them out!
Vorteile
Fast and easy setup, Intuitive UI, Rich features, Flexible, Stable, Great support
Nachteile
None! Never had an issue.
- Branche: Computer-Software
- Unternehmensgröße: 11–50 Mitarbeiter
- Wöchentlich für 6-12 Monate genutzt
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- Weiterempfehlungsquote 7.0 /10
Useful for user tracking
Bewertet am 26.4.2022
Satisfying and reliable until you try to get it to do more.
Satisfying and reliable until you try to get it to do more.
Vorteile
This gives me a better insight into what's happening with our software (with sign-ups, churn etc) than Google Analytics and other tools.
Nachteile
Some of the data is artificially limited - like you can only view through 1-8 days, 8-30 days, 30-90 days, 90-120 days...it doesn't make sense, and skews the data.
- Branche: Informationstechnologie & -dienste
- Unternehmensgröße: 2–10 Mitarbeiter
- Täglich für 1-5 Monate genutzt
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- Weiterempfehlungsquote 10.0 /10
Excellent product!
Bewertet am 16.8.2016
Chargebee is excellent for subscription businesses who need to manage their payments and invoices. ...
Chargebee is excellent for subscription businesses who need to manage their payments and invoices. I would strongly recommend trying it out. It's extremely easy to use. Should you run into any issues, their support team is amazing and very responsive.
Vorteile
Extremely easy to get set up and start taking payments.
Nachteile
A Xero integration would be useful, which they have built and are currently testing.
- Branche: Marketing & Werbung
- Unternehmensgröße: 201–500 Mitarbeiter
- Wöchentlich für 1-5 Monate genutzt
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- Weiterempfehlungsquote 8.0 /10
Chargebee first hand experience review
Bewertet am 21.4.2023
Vorteile
I like that it's simple to use and rich in features. It offers an easy-to-use user interface, good customer service, and is very configurable. Also, it works with any payment method and supports numerous currencies.
Nachteile
The setup process can be time-consuming sometimes, but still manageable.
- Branche: Einzelhandel
- Unternehmensgröße: Selbstständig
- Wöchentlich für 1-5 Monate genutzt
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- Weiterempfehlungsquote 3.0 /10
It's an Okay Product
Bewertet am 16.8.2018
Their customer support team was always slow on getting back to People and they never wanted to just...
Their customer support team was always slow on getting back to People and they never wanted to just provide you the answers you need, They always wanted to schedule a call back
Vorteile
That I could start subscriptions for my customers and also invoice them with their profile(accounts).
Nachteile
It stinks as I could not have a hosted payment portal for my customers to make payments and manage their accounts. Their software is heavily into coding and having the coding experience. It's definitely something not worth my money
- Branche: Marketing & Werbung
- Unternehmensgröße: 2–10 Mitarbeiter
- Monatlich für Mehr als 1 Jahr genutzt
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- Weiterempfehlungsquote 8.0 /10
Good overall
Bewertet am 4.11.2021
I've used it for online payments mainly, and have recommended it to a few colleagues.
I've used it for online payments mainly, and have recommended it to a few colleagues.
Vorteile
It's easy to set up payment links to send to clients and everything is process quickly.
Nachteile
Some features were a little convoluted but at least the help section is thorough.